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- Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:40 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
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- Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:25 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
We build convincing simulacra all the time, but they don't show much incremental progress towards consciousness - even on the level of a simple animal. I don't think they are very convincing at all--such as in your example. Clearly they are tricks, and take advantage of how people respond to social...
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
In my various posts in this thread I was contemplating the ramifications I think comtemplating the ramifications would be fascinating. In fact, I would propose a new direction: what would be evidence of consciousness? How could we tell? The Turing Test is probably flawed, but it's a start. Is there...
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:09 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:07 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
- Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:10 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:16 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:14 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Until we understand forces and things, all knowledge is also relative and therefore only accurate to the degree we can engineer with it. Light is an easy example here. This is an example of where science parts with Aristotle. Aristotle has his four causes, and clearly and not without motivation SC ...
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:44 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
I agree with caliban that many philosophical terms are used loosely and refer to things that cannot be explained adequately to measure in any useful way (correct me if I've paraphrased poorly). I have a few to add: 1) Matter/energy: 2) Potency/force: Physicists have exapted these terms from common ...
- Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:40 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Re: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
Nevertheless, the fact that it's complex and still very partially known doesn't make it unknowable in principle. Forgive me my dissent. I'll agree to your above statement, but I'll add another: just because we have learned a lot does not means that it is knowable in principle, either. We're fencing...
- Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:42 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Re: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
Biologists are starting to tackle these questions at several scales, even though they are very aware that they're minefields -- not only because of definitions, but also because they impinge on religion and people's cherished ideas of what constitutes personality and identity. So they are no longer...
- Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:34 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Re: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
It's a principle with me.Windwalker wrote: P. S. Why are you grumpy? (*laughs*)
So...really...can you give a definition of any of those terms, in such a way as to allow meaningful investigation? My ignorance is truly boundless.
- Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Re: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
Biologists are starting to tackle these questions at several scales, even though they are very aware that they're minefields -- not only because of definitions, but also because they impinge on religion and people's cherished ideas of what constitutes personality and identity. So they are no longer...
- Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Poetry and Prose of Science and Science Fiction
- Topic: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
- Replies: 38
- Views: 260301
Re: Artificial Intelligence / Synthetic Consciousness
a quote I bumped into from Dijkstra: "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim." SC I can appreciate Dikjstra's quote. Much of science, and especially physics, moves forward by deciding that some questions are to...